Barack Obama iq 145 : Did Obama score 45 on the LSAT

Barack Obama iq 145

Barack Obama iq 145

Barack Obama iq 145. Half Sigma has a recent post on estimating President Obama’s IQ. Of course, he bases the estimate on Obama’s time in Harvard Law School, and, in part, guessing what Obama’s LSAT score might have been. Half Sigma doesn’t do much defending the estimate that Obama’s IQ is at least 140+; he instead appeals to a comment on one of his earlier posts. The commenter is “Tom” who is supposedly a Harvard Law School graduate. It doesn’t matter for my purposes whether or not Tom is. Here is Tom’s comment, as originally posted by Half Sigma:

If we assume that LSAT 163=IQ 130 and average LSAT at HLS is 173, then the average HLS student has an IQ of 145 or 146, since on the LSAT 10 points is one SD.

Actually I think average LSAT Obama’s year was more like 170 or 171, so IQ = 140 is probably a reasonable estimate.

As an HLS grad, I can confirm that grading is largely blind, however the magna=top 10% rule was only established after Obama graduated. His year as I recall it was more like top 20%, and it varied year to year somewhat before it was changed from a minimum GPA standard to the top 10% rule.

Law Review has a few AA spots, and President of HLR is an elected position, so this means that the mainly white and very smart editors thought highly of him but does not speak directly to his intelligence.

All that said, even assuming the worst, that Obama just barely squeaked by in getting magna and was right at the top 20% and was an above average grade grubber, he still could not have graduated magna without having an IQ well in excess of 140.

HLS students are hardly slackers and the school is about 85% white or asian, so getting to the top 20% of that group is no easy task. I did know one guy who was somewhat less intelligent than the HLS average and got magna, but he studied insane amounts, more than 10 hours a day in addition to attending every class.

If Obama got his good grades this way, it speaks extremely well of his good character and work ethic in particular contrasting it with Bush, Gore, and Kerry with their gentleman’s B- averages, McCain and his bottom 1% grades at the navel academy, Biden with his plagerism, and Palin with her long struggle to find a college and major easy enough to squeak by.
Also, comparing Harvard College and Harvard Law School IQs, only about 1/3 of HC students who apply to HLS are accepted, and many more probably don’t even apply realizing they have no chance. I can’t remember the source, but I read that the average LSAT for HC students is 163, which is tied for the highest in the USA, but still well below HLS’s standards. There is a list floating around there somewhere.

Half Sigma concurs with the above reasoning:
I agree with the reasoning above.

I think that certain commenters who keep hinting at Obama’s low intelligence either: (1) don’t understand that liberals can be highly intelligent; or (2) think that because Obama is half black he can’t possibly be that smart–this attitude demonstrates a lack of understanding of about HBD.
Now, I don’t believe Obama’s IQ is sub-par; it’s likely to be around 135-140. Thus, I don’t fall into categories (1) and (2). However, let me explain why I estimate—which is all that I’m doing—lower than what’s argued for above.

I’m going to take Tom’s comment bit by bit:

If we assume that LSAT 163=IQ 130 and average LSAT at HLS is 173, then the average HLS student has an IQ of 145 or 146, since on the LSAT 10 points is one SD.

Actually I think average LSAT Obama’s year was more like 170 or 171, so IQ = 140 is probably a reasonable estimate.

Why should we assume that a 163 LSAT score will roughly be a 130 IQ? A 166-167 LSAT score will more likely be a 130 IQ. We can see this from my LSAT-IQ conversion chart, which points out that Mensa accepts a score at the 95th percentile of LSAT test-takers; this corresponds to a 166-167 LSAT score, which further corresponds to a 130 IQ, assuming a standard deviation of 15. The law school’s entering class’s 75/25 percentile split for LSAT scores is 175/169. These scores roughly correspond to 141/132 IQs respectively. If the average is indeed a 172-173 LSAT score, then the entering class roughly averages a 135-138 IQ. If the average for Obama’s class was a 170-171 LSAT scores, then his class roughly averaged a 133-135 IQ.

Let me make a side note here. I’m continuously puzzled over the fact that many people estimate the IQs of Harvard Law school students higher than me, based on such insufficient evidence. I think such judgments are rooted in the overestimation of said students’ intelligences, or of Ivy League students’ intelligence in general. People, more likely than not, overestimate their own, and other’s, intelligence(s). People have forgotten the rarity of 145+ IQs, even in Ivy League academic circles.

Let’s move on to another bit of Tom’s comment:
As an HLS grad, I can confirm that grading is largely blind, however the magna=top 10% rule was only established after Obama graduated. His year as I recall it was more like top 20%, and it varied year to year somewhat before it was changed from a minimum GPA standard to the top 10% rule.

Law Review has a few AA spots, and President of HLR is an elected position, so this means that the mainly white and very smart editors thought highly of him but does not speak directly to his intelligence.

All that said, even assuming the worst, that Obama just barely squeaked by in getting magna and was right at the top 20% and was an above average grade grubber, he still could not have graduated magna without having an IQ well in excess of 140.

If we assume the worst, then we see little reason for estimating Obama’s IQ “well in excess of 140.” The 75/25 LSAT percentile split would roughly be scores of 173/167 (lower than the above 175/169 percentile split, since Obama’s class, according to Tom, had a lower average LSAT score), which correspond to IQs of 138/130. Obama could very likely have had an average LSAT score, worked very hard, have many favor him (he’s a very likable guy), and graduate in the top twenty percent of his peers. He wouldn’t have to be in the top quartile of entering LSAT scores to do so. Thus, I estimate that his IQ is somewhere in the 135-140 range. This is lower than the above estimate, but we should remember that even in my range, Obama is still darn intelligent.

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